H1N1 vaccination in Canada and adjuvant

Is there something fishy between adjuvant and Gulf war syndrome or it is just me?


I did some google search on this subject and found some information I wanted to share.



Canadian authorities say to us that adjuvant has nothing to do with Gulf War syndrome since it was never used in vaccination against anthrax for military personel.(see link 1)
But If you look at link 2 it says that DoD (Departmant of Defence) in USA states that it doesn’t know if it was used or not . And if they say the don’t know what they put inside they soldiers usually means they not telling the true facts. As well from the same link 2 we can see that 1 of 7 soldiers got the Gulf War syndrome. Which is a lot.
And in the link number 3 we can see that Germany has 2 types of the vaccination one with adjuvant and one without. The one without is for all the government structure of germany and the one with for General public.
All this looks very strange for me.

p.s.
So as we know the vaccine we are getting in Canada has adjuvant. If I am not mistake only the pregnant people in Canada get the one without any adjuvant. The Question is why ?

Does anybody know it might be bad for pregnant women? Not really. But they say the research was never done on pregnant woman so they don’t know what side affects might occur. But the research was never done on the babies as well and the babies get the regular shot with adjuvant in Canada. I am to lazy to investigate it. But is my above statement is true?



Limk1

Q: What's in the adjuvant?

A: The product from GlaxoSmithKline, Canada's sole provider of H1N1 vaccine, called Arepanrix, uses an adjuvant called AS03, which consists of squalene (shark liver oil), DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) and polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier also used in ice cream). There are claims about the dangers of squalene but very little evidence to back them up. For example, it is claimed that the adjuvant used in the anthrax vaccine was to blame for Gulf War syndrome, but there was not adjuvant in that vaccine.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/your-h1n1-vaccine-questions-answered/article1348473/

Link2
"We Never Used Squalene in Vaccines"

Military officials have said all along that no Gulf War vaccines contained squalene. In August 1997, spokespersons for the DoD claimed that squalene "was not an adjuvant that was in any of the vaccines that were used by the Department of Defense,"3 and that "we never used squalene in vaccines" during the Gulf War. However, in a report4issued in March 1999, the General Accounting Office (GAD) - the investigative arm of Congress - stated:

We cannot say definitively whether or not Gulf War-era veterans were given vaccines with adjuvant formulations containing squalene for a number of reasons. Although DoD officials told us they did not administer such vaccines, they stated they did not have documentation on the process and results of decision-making related to the administration of vaccines at the time of the Gulf War. Also, some officials involved in the decisions were no longer employed with DoD at the time of our review, and we were either unable to locate them, or they declined to be interviewed.


A month after the GAO issued its 1999 report, the first hint that squalene might be linked to Gulf War syndrome appeared in an article in New Scientist magazine.5 Robert Garry, a virologist at Tulane University, tested more than 400 Gulf War veterans for antibodies to squalene and found that 95 percent of those with GWS had high levels of squalene antibodies.

Garry also tested a pair of volunteers who had received experimental herpes vaccines containing squalene in trials conducted by the National Institutes of Health. Both had high levels of squalene antibodies and also suffered from GWS-type symptoms.

In February, the peer-reviewed journal Experimental and Molecular Pathology6 published a study written by Garry's team at Tulane University and Dr. Pamela Asa, an immunologist from Tennessee. Dr. Asa was one of the first health professionals to advance the theory that Gulf War syndrome might be an autoimmune disorder caused by experimental vaccinations.

The research included blinded and unblinded studies. In the blinded study, 56 Gulf War-era veterans and military personnel who were on active service in 1990-91 were tested for squalene. Of those 56, 38 had been deployed to the Persian Gulf and had GWS-type symptoms; 12 had been deployed but were healthy; and six had not been deployed but were nevertheless ill.

The researchers found that among the 38 ill veterans who had been deployed, 36 (94.7 percent) tested positive for squalene antibodies. None of the deployed healthy individuals, however, tested positive.

Furthermore, all six subjects who were ill, but had not been sent to the Gulf, also had squalene antibodies. While they did not serve in the war, they had received the same type and number of vaccinations given to Gulf War troops.

To see whether squalene antibodies might be a marker for other types of autoimmune diseases, the researchers also tested groups of patients with lupus and chronic fatigue syndrome, as well as a small sample from the general population. Only 15 percent of those with chronic fatigue tested positive for squalene; only 10 percent of those with lupus tested positive; and only five percent of the general population had squalene antibodies.

The Tulane study made no conclusion about whether Gulf War vaccines contained squalene, what may have produced the antibodies, or what role they play in Gulf War syndrome. Still, it is hoped that the research conducted by Garry and Asa will prompt others to investigate the role of vaccinations in Gulf War syndrome and the safety of vaccines that contain squalene.

"We don't know what caused the immune system to produce anti-squalene antibodies in the Gulf War veterans, but this study shows that the antibodies are indeed there," observed Dr. Russell Wilson, president of Autoimmune Technologies, which helped market the study. Dr. Wilson does not believe that the antibodies were the result of a reaction to squalene added to vaccines. "That possibility must still be formally ruled out,"7 he concluded.

Approximately 700,000 Americans served in the Gulf War between 1990-91. One hundred and forty-eight Americans were killed in action; 467 were wounded. The Department of Veterans Affairs estimates that as many as 100,000 veterans may be suffering from Gulf War syndrome or related symptoms, and that approximately 6,500 soldiers have died since the war's conclusion, including more than 1,300 soldiers between the ages of 18-24.8
http://www.chiroweb.com/mpacms/dc/article.php?id=31730

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Link 3
In Germany, A Better H1N1 Vaccine For Politicians?
Time.com ^ | October 27, 2009 | Tristana Moore

Posted on October 27, 2009 3:37:31 PM by khnyny

Critics are calling it a two-tier health system — one for the politically well-connected, another for the hoi polloi. As Germany launched its mass vaccination program against the H1N1 flu virus on Monday, the government found itself fending off accusations of favoritism by offering one vaccine believed to have fewer side effects to civil servants, politicians and soldiers, and another potentially riskier vaccine to everyone else. The government had hoped that Germans would rush to health clinics to receive vaccinations against the rapidly spreading disease, but the rising anger over the different doses may now cause many people to shy away.

Amid growing fears over a possible global flu pandemic, the German government prepared for its mass vaccination campaign earlier this year by ordering 50 million doses of the Pandemrix vaccine, which would be enough for a double dose for 25 million people, around a third of the population. The vaccine, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline, contains an immune-enhancing chemical compound, known as an adjuvant, whose side effects are not yet entirely known. Then, after a report was leaked to the German media last week, the Interior Ministry confirmed that it had ordered a different vaccine, Celvapan, for government officials and the military. Celvapan, which is made by the U.S. pharmaceutical giant Baxter, does not contain an adjuvant and is believed to have fewer side effects than Pandemrix.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2372227/posts

Lets do referendum on Bill 101 in Montreal area.

In today’s the Gazette news I have read an article “Charest government's 'inertia' is eroding French: Marois Premier 'risks sowing disorder' in Montreal, PQ leader tells party”
(http://www.montrealgazette.com/life/Charest+government+inertia+eroding+French+Marois/2254695/story.html)


The lady says:

"Some people are angry now because they can see there is an erosion of French,"

Marois said.

"Right now I think (Charest) risks sowing disorder in a city like Montreal, which is our metropolis, because there are people who are getting more and more angry at the way French is being treated in Montreal.”

I want to comment on this one that there some people are angry on how English is treated in Montreal and in Quebec in general and I think PQ and existing legislation risks sowing disorder in a city like Montréal.

"Inertia and inaction also produce opposition, objections and social problems. Right now I think Mr. Charest is sending a very bad message to Quebecers.

So if I understand correctly this “prominent“ lady wants to say that Mr. Charet is not promoting new discriminatory legislations against Canadian official language English and that makes her upset.

"The current government is so inert, so disinterested in identity questions, questions of French and culture that we have to shake things up. They are not the ones who will defend French."

With relation to her previous citation she says that Liberals not making enough discriminatory unconstitutional laws but PQ will do that.

She said

when the PQ first created Bill 101 there were warnings of unrest, but today the charter is a "source of pride" for Quebecers.

But for me it is source of shame and misfortune that such a bill exists so don't speak from all Quebecers.



The rest of the article was about French in Montreal. However lets touch bases on this one. If I am not mistaken there is more allophones and Anglophone students in Montreal then francophone if Madam from PQ is so much fun of referendums lets make a referendums in Montreal on the bill 101 and other language issue to determine what Montréalers want, since population of Montreal differs from the rest of Quebec.


Madam Marois you are so concerned on what people want and what makes them angry , don’t you want to know what residents of Montreal want? If you really mean what you say just push for a referendum on usage of bill 101 in Montreal area. And if there will be no 101 on Montreal area you will not need to worry about French in Montreal any more.

As they say “No bill No problems.”

Punish the victims

My college received a fine of 45 CAD in Montreal since he forgot to close his car in public place . The Fine was placed on the driver seat. I have found an article online that describes the reasons for this legislation: (http://www.yourperth.ca/KanataKourier/article/4881)

My opinion that this is outrages, this law is not constitutional, I can do anything I want with my property keep it locked or unlocked it is my personal choice.

I can compare this legislation to giving fines to the ladies with deep cleavage or mini, since they are potentially seducing rapists and how much money it cost to investigate a rape and to recover the rape victim.

This is outrages that the potential victim of the crime is punished for being potential victim.

As well from the practical prospective people do not keep they car unlocked in purpose and everybody is aware that somebody can get in an steal stuff it happens by accident so the fine will really do not do any good as preventive measure it will just bring some extra money to the budget.

CLSC in Canada , Quebec

Canada is great country, however after I have lived here for 5 years I realized how poor is a health care system is relatively to general prosperity of this country. If by recent survey Canada quality of life on 7th place Canada health care is at 22 place (if health care was better general Canada location at this survey will be also higher of course) http://www.prosperity.com/rankings.aspx

Since I have 2 small kids that get sick more often then usual I have a lot of experience with the system.


Just yesterday I had some experience in CLSC , usually we do not go to CLSC since we don’t really understand the purpose of this place.
There is a doctors and there is hospitals and there is 811 health phone line.


But Yesterday it looked to me as the right place to go , my younger son fall down on the floor and open up his lip. He was bleeding a lot and his lower lip kind of opened up into 2 pieces , so I was not worried about his general health but my concern was regarding aesthetic aspect of this trauma if I should put stitches’ on it or not to prevent the scar. I could not determine it myself because I have lack of experience on this subject, so I needed somebody to tell me. For this reason I have decided to go to the closest CLSC. I came in at the evening about 7 and I was the only person there, besides me they had receptionist some facility manager and nurse.

After I gave my card to the receptionist I got in pretty quick.
Actually when we came in front of nurse my son lip closed up into 1 piece and hasn’t looked as bad as it was originally. The nurse told us it is ok and we don’t need the stitches so I was relieved with it. However she also told me that I should use judgment before coming to the CLSC and in situation like this I should not come , since we all pay taxes and each visit cost money to tax payers. As well I put extra pressure on the system and even that today there is nobody but for example yesterday they were busy in the CLSC.

It all has been told in the nice form and have been mentioned that she doesn’t want to insult me, so I was not insulted. But as result I have few questions:

1) Why CLS exists and the nurse is located there? Isn’t it one of the goals is for situations like this when I can’t determine the gravity of health condition so in order not to go to doctor I would rather go to CLSC to help me to determine the situation?

2) There already 3 workers in CLSC when I came in and zero patients isn’t a patient is a means to justify they presence there?(if we already talk about taxpayers money)

3) How the fact that the CLSC was busy a day before is relevant on telling me not to create extra pressure on CLSC any more?

H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)

Currently all my family has a swine flu including myself.
The doctors do not want to test us if this is actually H1N1 but as they say, most probably it is. Since we were not able to get vaccinated before we actually got the flu it I have few comments on this issue.

Vaccination:

1)Timing of the vaccination
It was too late, at the day we wanted to do the vaccination we already got the flu.

2)Paid vaccination: would really help , if it was possible to do vaccinations at early times with the first wave we would be probably safe. The factor of cost lets say 100 CAD per vaccine with your
own family doctor would filter the people who do not really think they are at risk zone and would take some presser from the vaccination centers.

3)The way vaccination is done:
Grouping so many people in same location during the pandemic makes no sense to me. The vaccination will start helping in 2 weeks, when you go to vaccination center you are very likely to get the virus yourself so I don’t know what will be the side effect on getting the vaccine and the virus at the same time?

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